[tied] Re: Creation > IE Astronomy

--- In cybalist@..., MrCaws@... wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., cas111jd@... wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., "João S. Lopes Filho" <jodan99@...> wrote:
> > > *aus-ro- lexeme in Germanic *Austro:n (Easter)
> > >
> > > *(a)usro- in Latin would must be *(a)ubr- (Osco-Umbrian aufr-

/ofr-

> > /ufr-).
> > > How about *umbrus (Umbrian)? Could be a nasalized form of

*ubrus?

> A
> > meaning
> > > similar to Ausonia?
> > >
> > > what's the etymology of OE earendel = ON aurvandill = OHG
> orentil ?
> > > Perhaps O:rion < *Ausriyon, throught a different IE dialect in
> > Greece.
> > >
> > As I recall, Orion's myth was centered in the east Aegean and so
> > might have been adopted from Lydia. He might be a sacrificial

hero

> > character similar to Acteon. Hunter gods had a habit of getting
> > killed tragically. Might his name be adopted from an ancient
> > Anatolian dialect?
>
> I looked up the constellation Orion in the good old Funk and
> wagnall's Standard Dictionary of Folklore Mythology and Legend.
> It listed a ton of cultures that associated constellation Orion

with

> figures from myth. Hunting seems to be a pretty common motif. The
> Hindus knew the constellation as Mrigra the stag, a form of

Prajapati.

>
> The Mesopotamians identified it with Tammuz. There's a sacrificial
> hero. And the Greeks had many different names for the
> constellation:The giant, the hunter, The warrior, the cok's foot,

and

> the double axe. The last one intrigues me-The sacrificial double

axe?

>
> Cort Williams

Way to go, Cort! Interesting to say the least. Hunter gods are
normally associated with stags. Prajapati is bascially the Hindu
version found in Gaul as Cernunnos and England as Herne the Hunter.
Orion was a giant to the Greeks (in size, not one of the Giants). As
for the last one, I'd say it was based on the shape of the
constellation, which looks like a double-headed axe.

As for Tammuz, I'd say he was more of a dying-and-resurrection
vegetation god analagous to Dionysus, Adonis, and Attis.