Re: [tied] Re: Creation > IE Astronomy

From: João S. Lopes Filho
Message: 10047
Date: 2001-10-09

I think we are in the right path.
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Subject: [tied] Re: Creation > IE Astronomy


> --- In cybalist@..., "Sergejus Tarasovas" <S.Tarasovas@...> wrote:
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> > Looks like a romantic fiction as well. What is your source?
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> > Sergei
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> I hardly remember. It's been too long. I find parallels with other IE
> mythologies and so I believe they have some merit. Different Balto-
> Slavic accounts suggest various authors found folklores from various
> parts of the Baltic and Slavic lands. Some may be latter day folklore
> as removed from the ancient mythology as is the American "the Ghost
> of Sleepy Hallow" is from Herne the Hunter. Some may be latter day
> neo-pagan inventions. Its rather impossible for a westerner to expect
> a high degree of authentic Balto-Slavic mythology has been translated
> into English, unfortunately. As you know, Christianity and communism
> didn't exactly foster documenting ancient mythology, and there were
> no Snorris from those places to write anything down long ago.
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> However, some commonalities in the myths I have read suggest to me an
> ancient mythological source. The 'celestial wedding' between the
> supreme sky god and goddess, the 'abduction' or 'elopement' of the
> Venus goddess, the death of one of the twin horsemen and the ascent
> of the other to heaven are replayed in varying accounts.
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> In Greece we have Castor dying and Polydeuces ascending to heaven.
> However, Zeus allowed each to perpetually spend one day in heaven and
> then die. This one day seems to be analagous to the quick rotation of
> the planet Mercury, IMO. The Dioscuri also are involved in a wedding,
> crashing it to carry off the brides Phoebe and Hilaeira, together
> known as the Leucippidae for their father, Leucippus ('White Horse').
> They also save their sister Helen (a version of Venus, IMO), whom
> Theseus abducted. They rescued her while Theseus was on an expedition
> to the Underworld. Thus he may have been a moon-god on his god dark
> phase.
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> The Hindu Asvinai are also involved in the 'celestial marriage' and
> become immortalized as gods (don't recall a lot of details here). In
> Rome we have Romulus and Remus: Remus dies, Romulus becomes a god,
> assimilated with Quirinus. Romulus leads the abduction of the Sabine
> women. I believe the twin gods are also recalled in the Anglo-Saxon
> Hengst and Horsa as part of a 'foundation' myth recalled in Romulus
> and Remus. Thus, as state gods, the 'divine twins' known as the
> Nasatiyas were also invoked in a treaty by the Mitanni with the
> Hittites.
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