[tied] Re: Creation > IE Astronomy

In Greek mythology, we have doublets of the Divine Twins, sometimes
undergoing a sex change. Some of the stories (through later literary
development) have one set of twins battling another set, even tho'
they are all are likely descended from a single ancestral tale (or
set of such tales). There are also fusions, sometimes with non-IE
elements.

One does better if you attempt to analyze motifs, instead of trying to
justify (i.e., 'theologize') all of it into a single consistent
system. It's like trying to synthesize Wagner and Snorri into a single
Norse super-myth. You can't.

--- In cybalist@..., "João S. Lopes Filho" <jodan99@...> wrote:
> Although Hesiodic Kharites were a trio, there were alternative
depictions of
> kharites as a duo. In this case they were considered to be children
of
> Helios, the Sun (among another ones).
> I think we can assume a IE myth with Twin Maidens (or only one),
perhaps
> swan-maidens, children of the Sun. These were disputed by the
Heavenly Twins
> and the Moon-God. Perhaps the Twin Maidens were Venus aspects and
Heavely
> Twins were Mercury's.
> cf.
> -Dievas's sons, Saules's daughters and the Moon, in Balts.
> -Surya:, Surya's daughter, Nasatyas and Pushan.
> -Helene (<*Swel-), a pivot a a fusion of at least three analogous
Dioscuric
> tales: Helene and Persephone as Zeus' daughters, and their
unsuccessfuk rapt
> by Theseus and Peirithoos; Helene and Klytaimnestra as Leda's
daughters, and
> their marriages to Spartan "Dioscuric" Agamemnon and Menelaos( a
name
> coincidentally similar to Baltic Menuolis and Hittite Menulash).;
Helene as
> Menelaos's wife and his rapt by Paris. And Helena was Dioskouroi's
sister.
> -Leukippides rapt by the Dioskouroi
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
> To: <cybalist@...>
> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 6:53 PM
> Subject: [tied] Re: Creation > IE Astronomy
>
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> > *zor-ja 'light in the sky' is related to *zIr-e^- 'see; appear'
and
> > *zor-k-U 'sight', derivatives of *g^Her- 'shine'. I think Kharis
> > reflects *g^Hrh1-i-, from *g^Hreh1- 'want, desire' (cf. English
> > greed). A case of accidental near-homophony, I suppose.
> >
> > Piotr
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> > --- In cybalist@..., "João S. Lopes Filho" <jodan99@...> wrote:
> > > Could be Zorya related to Greek Kharis? *g^her-?
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