Re: [tied] Re: Creation > IE Astronomy

From: João S. Lopes Filho
Message: 10019
Date: 2001-10-07

Is there some record of Celtic, Slavic and Germanic names for the planets
and main stars? What were their names before Greco-Latin influence?
So, there would a different string of 7 planets...
Sun
Moon
Morning Mercury
Evening Mercury
Morning Venus (<*aus-? cf. Eosphoros, Aurvandill)
Evening Venus (<*wespero-? Hesperos,Vesper)
Mars
Jupiter
Saturn

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From: <MrCaws@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 8:46 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Creation


> --- In cybalist@..., cas111jd@... wrote:
> > The identities of the seven might fluctuate from culture to culture
> > and from period to period. They are common in the Near East, from
> > where the early Neolithic peoples brought them into Europe where
> the
> > incoming Greeks adopted them (IMO). Seven is rarely found in
> northern
> > mythologies (unlike three and nine). Seven is usually identified by
> > mytholgraphers with Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Sun, and
> > moon.
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> I think it is reflected in the seven day week
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> Sunday Sun Day
> Monday Moon day
> Tuesday-or in Italian, Martedi Mars Day
> Wednesday-Italian, Mercoledi Mercury day
> Thursday-Italian Giovedi Jove/Jupiter day
> Friday-Italian Venerdi Venus day
> Saturday Saturn day
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> > However, in IE mythology the rising and setting Venus are about
> > always identified with two goddesses (sisters). Only in classical
> > Greece did they start to recognize that they are the same. I think
> > that if we recognize that the same was probably true of Mercury,
> then
> > these two planets can be seen as four of the seven, with Mars,
> > Jupiter, and Saturn completing the seven.
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> I agree that seven doesn't mesh well with the number scheme of the
> north, but the seven heavenly bodies thing was big in the near east
> long before classical times, and that knowledge/mythology was likely
> distributed through at least some of the Mediterranean prior to
> classical times, whatever its origin.
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> Cort Williams
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