Re: [tied] Creation

From: João S. Lopes Filho
Message: 10015
Date: 2001-10-06

In fact there was attempts to relate PLEIADES to peleiades "doves", and
there's a Persian constellation paoiryainenya, or something like.

All Pleiades, as goddesses, were ancestresses of linneages, mainly Achean. I
think they are associated to the Anatolian people who lived in Greece before
IE Greeks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:55 PM
Subject: [tied] Creation


> MrCaws:
> > However, I think the dove makes sense for this version of the
> >story, as doves are involved symbolically in the area
> > I know that doves are connected with the 7 Pleiades, and that a
> >black dove was sacrificed to Pelasgian goddess Dione-There's that
> >blackbird you mentioned
>
> Hmm. Perhaps the white doves have to do with rebirth... or with
> the moon again (bull horns). Hmm. It does seem that "seven"
> is somehow mythologically associated with this goddess figure. I
> had mentioned before the idea of seven astral bodies being of
> importance to early neolithic peoples... but no one bought that on
> the List, sad to say, because most can't escape the common
> contemporary belief that it was the Sumerians that invented
> everything from writing to astrology, rather than this being an
> influence from more northern peoples. As if the Sumerians were the
> inventors of their own civilisation... hahahaha! :P
>
> However, I don't know how else to explain "seven" except as
> originally representing the seven most prominant astral
> bodies in the sky:
>
> Pole Star
> Sun
> Moon
> Venus
> Mars
> Jupiter
> Saturn
>
> In that respect, "seven" symbolically represents the totality of
> creation, and hence, perhaps this is apt for a Supreme Goddess who
> gave birth to the whole universe.
>
> >BTW-I'm going to a lecture on the Cretan snake goddess in a couple
> >weeks-Maybe that will give me some new ideas on that front.
>
> That'll be interesting. I like the idea of a ritual dance and I
> have to admit that this Eurynome myth has invoked that image in my
> mind as well. Hmm, I wonder if anyone has bothered to reconstruct
> IE music to go with these dances... ;)
>
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