Re: Apollo

From: cas111jd@...
Message: 10013
Date: 2001-10-06

--- In cybalist@..., "Joseph S Crary" <pva@...> wrote:
> Cas
>
> This I wrote:
>
> > I found the following Anatolian towns in Hittite documents:
> Purandas (Priene), Lipa (Lebedus), Attarimma, Huwarsanassa
> (Halicarnassus), Apasa (Ephesus), and Suruda (Sardis).
> I can not find a match for Attarimma, except the name
> appears to be similar in style to Appa-> liuna. As in
> Atta-rimma, or lord-mother of something. It looks a
> little like Artemis.<
>
The information I have locates Attarimma as well as Suruda in the
Lukka Lands, from where the rebels fled to Arzawa on the approach of
Mursilis. I am unable to find a location narrower than SW Anatolia
east of the Carian coast. However, Aura is also an interior city we
should equae with Amorium (variant form Aiorion).

Mursilis defeated the Arzawans at Walma (Helmi?) on the R. Astarpa
(Cayster?), then invades Arzawa to Apasas (Ephesos), from where the
king fled across the sea. Some fled to Ruanda (Priene)

> I think I need to change Halicarnassus for Huwarsanassa.
> Halicarnassus is far too south along the coast to have been
> included in this text. Because of the association with actions
> taken by the people of Suruda Huwarsanassa must be located
> in the Hermus basin near Sardis.

I know that Suruda seems to be Sardis, but the text suggests Suruda
is further inland in eastern Caria or even further in Pisidia or
nearby.

What is interesting is that
> the name of this Huwarsan- district ends with -assa. Might this
> suggest an Tyrrhenian or Pelasgian affiliation as
> well?
>
> JS Crary

I'm not big on Pelasgians. They are too legendary. Like the Danaans,
Heraclidae, Leleges, Minyans, and others, they are the stuff of myth
and legend. Intriguing, yes, but too nebulous to identify in history
with any certainty.