Re: [tied] IE roots

1- Is there a phonetic law S+g- > C- ?

2- Can HegWr- be related to gWrei- "mountain" (cf. giri, Boreas, and Balto-Slav forms)?

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From: Piotr Gasiorowski

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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:23 AM

Subject: Re: [tied] IE roots

Neither of these is what one could call a solid reconstruction.

I haven't got G/I at home, but as far as I recall, *(s)grobHo- is based mainly on Slavic *grabU (though it doesn't account for the Slavic long vocalism); supportive evidence is provided by Latin carp-i:nus (with formidable phonological complications, of course, and the possibility that English hornbeam is a folk-etymological distortion of a related word), plus several obscure Italic, Illyrian and Macedonian terms containing <grab->. I'll check the hornbeam tomorrow in Friedrich's article on PIE trees and in the EIEC, in case I've forgotten something important.

*Hegr- (or rather *HegW-r-) is an attempt to find a common denominator for Skt. agram and Hit. hekur.

Piotr

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From: João S. Lopes Filho

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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:21 AM

Subject: [tied] IE roots

I think this checklist of PIE roots came from Gamkrelidze/Ivanov book: Besides that the vocabulary may reflect ecological environment: *Hegr- (a mountain), *kel- (a hill), *hap- (a river), *(s)neigh- (snow), *gheim- (winter), *tep- (heat), *perk-u- (an oak), *bhergh- (a birch), *bhaHgo- (a beech), *ei- (a yew-tree), *(s)grobho- (a hornbeam), *hrtko- (a bear), *ulko-/*ulp- (a wolf), *ulopek- (a fox, a jackal), *leu- (a lion), *leuk- (a lynx), *el(e)n-/ *elk- (a deer, an elk), *ger- (a crane), *ghans- (a goose, a swan), *karkar- (a crab) etc. What are the IE developments for (s)grobho- ? Hegr- ... mountain?