From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 9933
Date: 2001-10-02
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:21:34 -0000, tgpedersen@... wrote:<däüts>,
>
> >Probably in Dutch <Duits> "German", pronounced approximately
> >earlier <döyts> (Dutch speakers are welcome to protest here)./y/ was in this case meant to represent a consonant. BTW, Danish has
>
> Is [ü] the same as [y]? The diphtongs /Ei/ (ij, ei), /Öü/ (ui) and
> /Ou/ (ou, au) have a tendency to open their first element towards
> [äi], [Äü] and [Au] (while the monophtongs /e./, /ö./ and /o./
> diphtonguize towards [ei], [öü] and [ou]). The middle Dutch
> pronunciation was [dü:tsk] or [dü:tsx], ultimately from *Tiudisk-.