Re: [tied] Daci

O-: João S. Lopes Filho:
O-:> > If Dacia was an IE name there's a lot of possibilities. Are the
O-:> Daci Celts? Slavs? Balts? Thraco-Phrygians?

Yes:-) ..plus easterners..by the time the pre-Roman state emerged, Dacian
identity had already been well mixed with intrusives and the Getae, equally
local. The name of the state came more from the claimed ethnicity of the
leaders, Burebista et al, than the people as a whole in the region
consolidated under their control. Then the reference became a national
descriptor rather than ethnic..very much like "American". Current
references to the pre-state cultural and ethnic contributions to the present
do not attempt to sort Getae from Daci..and use the more accurate lumper
term: "Geto-Daci". Then referencing the disputed links to the past in
the current population: it will carry the modifier "Latinized"

O-:> > Has Dacia short or long "a"?
Locally, unlike Western European attempts to pronounce it ..."Geto-Daci"
is :

Jetto - Dah-tch (Which gets in the way of arguments trying to relate Getae
to Goth)

..and the local surviving car model, after the state..the Dacia, is:

Dah-chiuh

Dacian..is not used locally, at all, and usually carries stronger A,
however.

(My impression is the hard C and K; and long A were external impositons
that never took locally..BUT that is plural, and although the singular is
very rarely used....it regains the hard C/K in the Dac form : Dahk ) (As
Wallachia came from Vlak)


Slàinte mhath;
Rex H. McTyeire
Bucharest, Romania