Re: [tied] Re: Troy, Rasna and Turan

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 9717
Date: 2001-09-24

Cort:
>But wasn't the specific city of troy known as Wilusa, at least to the
>Hittites anyway? I remember that in a discussion a while ago there
>was an idea that Troy might be a more general term for a region/
>political confederation/peoples of which Wilusa was an important
>member.

I'm open to that possibility until I look into it further and find
otherwise.

>If that was so, then could "people of Turan" or some such thing be
>the origin of that name as well as for Tyrrhenian?

But why Turan? We would end up with **Turan-ana then... or if you
accept my view that Turan < *Xast�ra, then we have *Xast�ra-na.
The former would yield Etruscan **/Turanana/, the latter would yield
**/(A)Turana/. Either way, we certainly don't end up with /ras'na/ at all.

I suggested *Tarwese-na for multiple reasons. First, it correlates with
Hittite /Taruisa/ and second, the Etruscan outcome agrees with the
accent rule I developed for Tyrrhenian where the accent tends to
be placed off of *a. Hence, Tarw�sena > Etr /ras'na/. The association
of the Tyrrhenians with Troy also makes some historical & geographical
sense.
While I think *Xast�ra was important to these peoples, it doesn't
necessarily
follow that these peoples named themselves according to her name. Rather,
I'm getting the impression that they defined themselves by their cities of
origin.

>And as long as we are talking about Tyrrhenian and the goddess Turan,
>wasn't Cyprus one of the mythic points of origin for Aphrodite?

Actually, I would say that she derives from the neolithic and pertains
to the Eastern Mediterranean in general. The whole goddess archetype thing.

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