--- In cybalist@..., "Joseph S Crary" <pva@...> wrote:
> Cas
>
> I agree, Appa-liunas' not Lion or Bull Lord, rather it's Father-
Lord
> of Light.
>
> First note; The Iliad says the people of Lemnos at the time of
Trojan
> War were Minyans. Then why would anyone be so eager to own the foul
> smelling Lemnos? Unless that was the sweet smell of success? The
> Hittites mention Lazpa, likely Lesbos, as well. However, its clear
> that Taruisa and Troy are not the same place. In Tudhalias' Assuwa
> victory text, a number of Anatolian towns are mentioned. These
> include from south to north; Taruisa (Tyras) and Wilusiya-Wilusa
> (Ilios). However, there also is an Antolian town in Hittite texts
> called Iliunna, which may include the ending found in Appa-liuna.
>
> I found the following Anatolian towns in Hittite documents:
Purandas
> (Priene), Lipa (Lebedus), Attarimma, Huwarsanassa (Halicarnassus),
> Apasa (Ephesus), and Suruda (Sardis). I can not find a match for
> Attarimma, except the name appears to be similar in style to Appa-
> liuna. As in Atta-rimma, or lord-mother of something. It looks a
> little like Artemis.
>
> There also is a reference while, campaigning in Anatolia to a god
of
> plague, sudden death, and thunderbolts (meteors) called Tarhunnas.
> Could this be Tyrrhena-s? This is included in a western Anatolian
> personal name from this period, Manapa-Tarhuntas.
>
> Last note: I found in Herodot, Histories 2.51; a reference to the
> mysteries of Kabeiroi on Samothrace, said to be ritual of the
> Pelasgians. The Kabeiroi has something to do with a divine method
of
> protection.
>
> JS Crary
I probably read the same book as you: "Geography of the Hittite
Empire." I did an analysis, too, of the towns of Assuwa with
classical towns. I determined that Taruisa was probably Tyrrhas south
of Sardis. I also remember Parista listed, which I equated to
classical Parion on the Troad.
As for Tarhunnas, he was the same as the Hittite storm-god
Tarkhuntassa/ Tarkhuns/ Taru, later found as Tesub, who was the
Hurrian storm-god.
As for the Kabeiroi on Samothrace. They seem to me to be derived
originally from Anatolia, adopted into Thrace and then Greece as was
Dionysus, etc. I relate the Kaberoi to other referrences of
the "bearded Aphrodite" in Cyprus, and various myths of androgynous
or hermaphroditic deities and castration in the tales of Adonis or
Attis. This is most plainly seen with Agdistis of Phrygia, whose
hideous sexuality drove Attis to castrate himself.
Anyway, the Kaberoi include an older figure that I suspect was
originally this Agdistis-like freak of nature, while his/her younger
male figure is the Attis/Adonis figure. Samothrace was the location
of a Taurobolium, found also in other mystery cults. It had to do
with death, resurrection, and ascendancy to heaven found in Orphism,
etc.
It seems to have included all the gods and goddesses of older myths
that included death and resurrection: Dionysus, Attis, Cybele,
Demeter, Hecate, Orpheus, Mithras, etc. Bull sacrifice is probably
also traceable to ancient Anatolia, where the bull or calf is found
associated with the great goddess and her lioness since earliest
times. In fact, I have pondered the name similarities between the
Kaberoi and neo-Hittite Kubaba, Lydian Kubebe, and Greco-Roman
Cybele. As you know, these were based on the Anatolian 'Great
Goddess' as was Agdistis, and Cybele included Attis in her mythology.