Re: [tied] Re: Greek Gods I : APOLLO - SILENOS

According to Pierre Grimal's dictionary, Silenos was father of Arcadian
Apollon Nomios.

Could be Sile:nos be cognate of Latin Silva:nus (and Etruscan Selvans,
probably from Italic)?

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Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 7:19 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Greek Gods I : APOLLO


> --- In cybalist@..., "Joseph S Crary" <pva@...> wrote:
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> > Cort
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> > I think the Cattle Raid of Hermes is a myth about change, lunar
> > eclipses and seasonal. Here Hermes plays the part of the underworld
> > god. The bovines are lunar cattle that pull the cart that the moon
> > and/or sun god drives. It seems that Initially, the myth was about
> > the IE deity Silen-os. This is a name that can mean both moon and
> > sun, as in solar. Later Silenos is reduced in status, while
> remaining
> > the myth's main action figure As the Apollon deity usurped Silenos
> > by the time the myth was recorded, the former was simply inserted
> > into the cattle raid story to explain why he also was a god of
> music.
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> I read a critique of Silenos being attached to the cattle raid story,
> as the source for this is a satyr-play where Silenos assisted Apollo
> retrieve his cattle. The satyrs, and naturally Silenos as their
> headman, always play a major role in the satyr plays, even in myths
> where they are otherwise uninvolved. Is there evidence linking
> Silenos to this myth independent of the satyr play?
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> I agree in part wit the idea that the musical instrument part of the
> story was created to explain Apollo's musical power.The fact that
> Apollo has powers as musician and prophet, traditionally the turf of
> the king of beasts-underworld-fertility type deity, yet functions as
> a cultural hero requires explanation. This story provides this in the
> traditional heroic fashion, Apollo following the underworld deity to
> his lair and besting him, gaining his newfound lyre as a prize.
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> I also read a story that has Apollo gaining his prophetic powers from
> Pan, again a fertility lord of the wild type.
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> -Cort Williams
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