Re: [tied] Thoughts on the existence of *H1

From: Che
Message: 9484
Date: 2001-09-14

mmm... I really DO have a problem when trying to read and understand your notation system. Is there a table where listed or something?
 
How the heck is "sth2-tó-" read?
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From: Piotr Gasiorowski
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Thoughts on the existence of *H1

Aaa... Here's one example that occurred to me a moment after I pushed SEND: *speh1- 'thrive, increase', Skt. spHira- 'abundant' < *sph1-ró- (like stHita- < *sth2-tó-), cf. Latin prosper.
 
Piotr
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Thoughts on the existence of *H1

 
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Thoughts on the existence of *H1
 

> Now for the attack... If *H1 were truely either *[?] or *[h], should we not find cases where *H1 has affected a preceding stop? If it were *[h] we should find sequences like *dH1 becoming *dh, nicht wahr? If a glottal stop, we should find correlations with Kartvelian ejectives in loans that demonstrate such a thing. If the latter were true, it would facilitate the development of ejectives in IE just like its neighbours, yet we simply don't see such a thing aside from highly tentatively in Armenian.
 
This is a valid argument. Alas, cases of aspiration in *-Ch1- combinations may be accidentally difficult to find, since *h1 is rarer than *h2 in positions where stops might be affected. In *dHeh1- *dH is already aspirated, and *deh1- or *geh1- (not to mention *beh1-) don't seem to be attested. I'll see if any examples can be found (maybe before the *-h1en- suffix?).

Piotr

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