Re: Scientific Nationalism?

From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 8925
Date: 2001-09-01

--- In cybalist@..., "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...> wrote:
> Obviously I've touched a raw nerve in Che's central nervous system
> which may be more prone to patriotic romanticism than I:
> >Glenny, are you an American or something...?
>
> Canadian actually. Canada is a little different from the States in
> terms of culture and there is much less "religious patriotism"
> than often exists south of the border. Patriotism is the love of
> one's country. Love is an emotion. A country is an inanimate object.
> Emotions are not logical, and certainly at the very least, the
> obsessive love of an inanimate object is a good enough reason for
> therapy.
>
> Now, nationalism is natural alright. It's full of human wishywashy
> emotion that gets in the way of logic. It has existed through
> the sands of time and will do so for times to come. The naturalness
> of nationalism is irrelevant, however.
>
> Science and theory are best served by avoiding personal prejudices.
> Therefore, nationalism, a fun pasttime for those who so wish to
> spend their personal time, has no place in science and theory. That
> last sentence is simply not open to debate.
>
> I'm not terribly concerned about who you *think* I am, how well
> you think you can guess my views before consulting me first on them,
> or whether I fit your stereotypical mould of immigrants in
> Barcelona. Your rant about anthropocentric views on chimpanzees i
> introduces more irrelevance to this discussion.
>
> In all, your assumptions of me are irrational. This debate so far
> is suggesting the beginnings of a problematic dialogue quickly
> turning monologue. Be warned, Che.
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> gLeNny gEe

I see. Does that mean that you will not turn into a screaming dervish
if someone lumps together Canada end the USA together under the
concept of "America" or if someone calls you Irish?

Torsten