Glen's Strange Rules (on Hattic now)

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 8681
Date: 2001-08-22

>"Related?" In what way? "Alternates?" In what sense? p > w
>and r > l are both possible, but what evidence is there to
>justify the assumption of either change in Hattic? Almost
>anything could be related to anything else, but unless you
>can support it with a plausible pattern of correspondences
>illustrated with real examples, an isolated equation like
>"par = wel" is too long a shot.

Okay, okay, hold your horses. First, it's /n/ and /r/ that
alternate in Hattic (kunu~kuru). The reason I ask about /wel/
is that the book I finally discovered hidden in my university
library (Hethitisch, Palaisch, Luwisch, Hieroglyphenluwisch und
Hattisch - Altkleinasiatische Indices zum Handbuch des Orientalistik
A. Kammenhuber, 1969.) shows these alternations in its glossary.

pakku, wakku troups, army
pau, wau to eat
pinu, inu child
punan, wunan person

And yes, there apparently is even p/w alternation for the word for
"house" (pil, pel, wil, wel). Some p-words don't exhibit the
alternation in written Hattic, some do. The "house" word does.

However, I had even suspected there was something like this *[f]
happening in Hattic *before* I found this book because of a site
online mentioning that Hattic sawat- "fruit" derives from Anatolian (which
contains *-m- of course). This would automatically mean that
*sammaL- > *sa~faT- > sawat-. This idea is further supported by
/windu/ "wine" (*winnu > *wi~Tu > windu). In other words there
is an overall pattern of denasalisation of earlier *-mm- and *-nn-
into nasal vowel plus corresponding fricative... which in turn
implies the existence of fricatives *f (bilabial),
*L (lateral) and *T (dental) in Hattic or in some prehistoric
stage of Hattic.


gLeNny gEe
...wEbDeVEr gOne bEsErK!

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