Re: [tied] Quandoque et bonus...

From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 8635
Date: 2001-08-21

--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> I was being only half serious, but there are a few points worth
making (sorry for the slip I made, BTW: Wilusa- is Luwian and
Wilusija- is Hittite). First, the identification of Wilusa (*wi:l-us-
) with Ilios/Ilion (i:lio- < *wi:l-ijo-) is quite unproblematic (cf.
Message #4348) and supported by parallel formulaic collocations
("steep Wilusa/Ilios") in the Iliad and in a Luwian poem, and the
Hittite reference to Alaksandus of Wilusija mentioned in Joseph's
> As for Troy <tro:ia:, troïa:>, in Homer's usage the term may stand
for both the region of the Troad and for the city that was its
capital, identified with Ilios. But if it could be argued that
Taruisa = Troy, this would mean that Troy accidentally lent its name
to Ilios -- a different city in the Troad, of central importance to
the plot of the Iliad and therefore usurping the place of the
regional capital in the imagination of the Greeks. The initial <ta-ru-
> in <ta-ru-i-sa> may well be a representation of /tru-/ in Hittite
orthography, and since there are variable correspondences involving
i/e, u/o and e/a between late Luwian dialects and Greek, something
like *tru-is- might plausibly underly the name of Troy (perhaps via
*truis- ~ *trois-ija: > *troihija:).
> Piotr
I collected tr- words once. What do you think of the wanderword Lat.
turris "tower"? Does that fit in? As I recall *pr "house" was also a