Re: [tied] Re: Odin as a Trojan Prince

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 8554
Date: 2001-08-16

>Firstly, cognates of Skt bhaga I believe are restriced to Satem
>languages in Persian and Slavic

Russian /bog/ "god"

>Perhaps centum cognates are ON hestr, Swe hast, and
>Gaelic osan? There is also Hittite Asuwa/ aswu.

Perhaps *not*. Try OEnglish /eoh/, with which the donkey
character in Winnie the Pooh is named. Centum languages do not
sibilantize *k^, hence the name Centum, pronounced ['kEntm] with
a [k]! Of course, "Winnie the Pooh", in turn was named after
Winnipeg, my hometown, which is appropriate given that there are
many connections to be made between Winnipeg
and bowel movements.

gLeNny gEe
...wEbDeVEr gOne bEsErK!

email: glengordon01@...

>I believe the same is true of horse: Lith asva, Skt asva/ azva,
>Avestan aspa. Perhaps centum cognates are ON hestr, Swe hast, and
>Gaelic osan? There is also Hittite Asuwa/ aswu. Perhaps Pegasos was
>derived from there? Nothing close in Greek, however.
>Pegasus was the offspring of the Medusa and Poseidon. This hardly
>seems the lineage of the 'horse of god'. Poseidon had a chariot
>pulled by horses. So did the Welsh sea-god Manannan and the Norse sea-
>god Aegir. They rode across the tops of waves. Perhaps this was
>associated with sea breezes or clouds and mists at sea. I believe
>that these three IE sea-gods were all related to the same PIE belief.
>As for the apocalyptic destruction, I think that is pretty well
>restricted to the World Serpent in about every IE mythology.
>--- In cybalist@..., "Jo´┐Żo S. Lopes Filho" <jodan99@...> wrote:
> > Well, I was not saying that in IE mythology the horse is allways
>associated to apocalyptical destruction, but that there's some traits
>of an older myth involving a horse (or a mare) in a kind of proto-
>Ragnarok. There was also traits of supernatural horses helping
>heroes, like Pegasus or Areion. Speaking of Pegasos... could be
>ending -asos akin to Indo-Iranian ashva?
> > So, Pe:gasos < * Bhaga-asva "Godly Horse"? Perhaps originally
>*Bagasos, later due folk-etymological association with pe:ge: "well,
>fountain" turned into Pa:gasos?

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