Re: [tied] Re: Odin as a Trojan Prince

I think that Trojan war is a mix of real facts with mythological substrata.
Trojan War is a kind of "grand finale" of Greek Mythology, so I sugest it's
like a euhemerized version of a Proto-Greek Ragnarok, like Mahabharata in
India. The fireburn of Ilion, and the presence of Trojan Horse is very
similar to the apocalyptical horses in India: the horse-headed undersea
fire, whose destiny is to destroy the world, and the last avatar of Vishnu,
the horse-headed giant Kalki. The Norse equivalente is Surtr, although with
no aparent equine element.

Joao SL

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Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:29 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Odin as a Trojan Prince


> --- In cybalist@..., cas111jd@... wrote:
> > Ever since Homer, myths and legends have persisted about
> foundations
> > of civilizations from Trojan War heroes. Some, like Mopsus in
> > Anatolia, may be true. Others such as Trojans settling in norther
> > Greece, which was populated by kindred Thracians in those times,
> may
> > also have some basis in reality. After all, the collapse of the
> > Aegean civilization and depopulation of much of the region soon
> > followed the Trojan War. The diaspora resulted in the Sea Peoples
> > going all the way to Egypt.
> >
> > However, anything else is too fanciful. A few may have made it to
> > Italy, though I suspect that the Romans' grafting Aeaneas to their
> > foundation myth is already beyond believability.
> >
> > To give themselves credibility and airs of princely legitimacy,
> every
> > Anatolian city in the Hellenistic period adopted someone from the
> > Iliad as their founder. The Romans, IMO, did the same with Aeneas.
> > They also flattered the Trinovantes of Britain as being descended
> > from Trojans, based on a supposed name similarity.
> >
> > These theories and tales die hard because they are romantic
> > fantasies.
> >
> Why is it that everybody but me receives revelations? Why is the
> untruth of those sources so "evident" and "obvious"?
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/bhA.html
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/bhA1.html
> http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/bhA2.html
> Why is it no one offers hard evidence that it can't be so?
> And would the same people also please offer evidence that Troy is a
> figment of Homer's imagination, created to enhance the past of the
> Greek?
>
> Torsten
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