Re: [tied] Re: Odin as a Trojan Prince

But, is there a possibility, even remote, of these legends be a true basis?

Why did Scots relate themselves to Scythia or Egypt? The folk-etymological
association between Scotia and Scythia? The Biblical references to Egypt,
including them in the Moses cycle?
I've already references in books about dog breeds, that Celtic terriers
could have been a Egyptian origin, relating them to the Egyptian "teckel", a
small, short-legged dog, usually considered to be ancestor of German
dachshund, Welsh Pembroke Corgi, and even Maltese bichon.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:08 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Odin as a Trojan Prince


> --- In cybalist@..., "Joseph S Crary" <pva@...> wrote:
> > Torsten
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> > I've seen this same type of foundation tradition used by several
> > Nordic-German tribal confederations. The Franks and Langobards use
> it.
> > Even the Scots use it. These focus on either Troy or Scythia. The
> > Scots actually use Scythia in one tradition and Scythia-Egypt in
> > another. They all seem to use the region immediately north of the
> > Black Sea as a common point of origin. However, both the Franks and
> > Langobards had more detailed traditions concerning their migration
> > from Scandinavia to Germany.
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> >
> > I don't think these traditions are inventions as we would view it
> > today. I think there may have been different traditions or sets of
> > traditions floating around. One that applied to the more recent
> > history of a given tribe. A second, that applied to the very dim
> and
> > very ancient tribal history. And, a third tradition that actually
> > comes from Hellenistic sources, and had been merged with the second
> > tribal tradition. The merging of the second and third traditions
> > allowed these tribes a way of relating to the Roman world. Then
> there
> > is the Judeo-Christian aspect that later required northwestern
> > European ruling families to trace their ancestry back to Adam. Its
> > important to remember that these are real traditions, although
> > historically they may not be entirely reliable.
> >
> > These traditions may reflect different aspects of a given tribal or
> > later national history?
> >
> > JS Crary
>
> I get the feeling that you are somehow agreeing with me (thank you ;-
> ) ), but I can't figure out your epistemology. My own says a story is
> either true or false, either it happened or it didn't.
>
> Torsten
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