Re: Affects of immigrant communities in language change

From: Joseph S Crary
Message: 8438
Date: 2001-08-10


Just wondering

As you were discussing the relationship of German to the Etruscan and
Finno-Ugric languages. Have you considered Etruscan, Pelesgi, and
Hurrian as members of the Finno-Ugric group?

If so you may have the Corded Ware and Battle Axe people.


What your say about the Herodot's account is very similar to what was
said 120 years ago about Homeric traditions in the Iliad.

about Herodot's founder of Lydia -Atuos

apa father -Etruscan
avula grandfather -Etruscan
ati or ativu mother -Etruscan
atena of the father, family, clan -Etruscan
Where the Etruscans matrilineal?

nac (genitive nac(e)s) size; lofty, elevated -Etruscan
nacna big; lofty, elevated, next to, last -Etruscan
nacnu big, lofty, to be elevated -Etruscan
ati nacna grandmother [from ati mother] -Etruscan

any thoughts about this?

The Lydian tradition about picking a scapegoat to avert a drought is
interesting as well? There appears to be a Luwian parallel.

Hittite tablet
[ANET, 347]

These are the words of Uhha-muwas, the Arzawa man. If people are
dying in the country and if some enemy god has caused that, I act as

They drive up one ram. . . . They drive the ram onto the road leading
to the enemy and while doing so they speak as follows: "Whatever god
of the enemy land has caused this plague -- see! We have now driven
up this crowned ram to pacify thee, O god! Just as the herd is
strong, but keeps peace with the ram, do thou, the god who has caused
this plague, keep peace with the Hatti land! In favor turn again
toward the Hatti land!" They drive that one crowned ram toward the

JS Crary