Re: Celtic Jutland

From: Joseph S Crary
Message: 8225
Date: 2001-08-01

Celt Tribes of Jutland

Teutoni Basitiam Sjæland-Zealand
Oeonae Fyen-Funen
Latrim Lolland

Cimbri Cimbrorum Himmerland-Nordjylland-
Vendsyssel
Cimbrorum Djursland-Arhus
Promunturium
East Viborg
Codanus Skagen-Skaw

Aloci Cimbrorum West Viborg

Chali Cimbrorum Ringkøbing

Charudi Cimbrorum Varde-Ribe-Vejle

Cohandi Cimbrorum Slesvig-North Schleswig-
Sønderjylland

Aduatuci Cervicem Slesvig-South Schleswig

Ambroni Saxony-Holsten

After reflecting on what you wrote about the water passage of
northeast Jutland I looked the following up. I believe we both have
figured out the Teutons controlled the narrow sounds that run by the
Danish isles and the Cimbri controlled the Jutlandic land route. Then
there is the narrow water way between thenorthern islands immediately
north and northeast of Himmerland

From Beowulf:

þæm selestan be sæm tweonum,
þara the on Sceden-igge sceattas dælde.

who has lived at the two seas
and distributed gifts in Scania.


I wasn't aware that sea passage was too dangerous. Now, the
earthquake-wave story takes on even more meaning. Initially I though
that the wave had just wrecked fishing weirs, coastal agriculture,
and boats. However I'm wondering if the wave may have reopened the
passage, as well.


http://www.abc.se/~m10354/publ/cult-land.htm

At the transition to another zone there are often found natural
obstacles of different kinds (the river mouth banks, other sediments
in sea routes, mountain ranges, rapids or cataracts, with portages,
hauling or carrying sites, dangerous points, promontories and
shallows/ banks. They mean the reloading of cargo and the change of
means of transport at a well-defined site (transit/ion point,
transit/ion/ pivot ), for an accompanying water or land transport in
the new zone.

Some of these transit points are sometimes temporary, especially in
an area of mobile quaternary deposits. In the Scandinavian area there
are two dangerous points par préference, The Skaw/ Skagen on
Jutland
and Falsterbo Reef in Scania.

The Skaw is the dividing line between the North Sea and the Kattegat.
If the Limfiord passage through Jutland was closed, which happened
several times during ancient times the Reef was an almost
unsurmountable barrier to shipping (at least from around 1150). The
northernmost tip of Jutland appeared at times as a sandy archipelago.
From the outside (W.) of the Reef an earlier outlet for passages to
and fro Norway, called the Sløj channel, closed around 1100. It
was
infinitely safer in passages fro the North Sea to the Baltic to go
overland at the root of Jutland (cf the early prominence of Ribe,
Hamburg and other Atlantic sites) or in exceptional cases to sail
directly to South Norway and to hug the present Swedish west coast
southward. Skippers valiantly doubling the Reef, ummelandsfarer,
presumably in cogs, are known from historical sources around 1255,
but seem to have existed for some time then.

By the way what does Skaw mean? Is it a Danish word? Just asking
because there is an Irish warrior-seer deity named Scath pronounced
Skaw. I'm sure these are superficial similarities and nothing more.
JS Crary