Re: [tied] Re: Baltic *gud3-

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 8061
Date: 2001-07-23

The term <godo> is anything but pejorative in the Spanish tradition: "Mas vos, godo Quixote, ilustre y claro...", or, as Byron said of Don Juan, "... he traced his source / Through the most Gothic gentlemen of Spain". "Gothic" is synonymous with "noble".
The idea that gudas = *Gudas borrowed before Grimm's Law is ingenious. My only formal objection is that the Germanic ethnonym is attested as a nasal stem (which would have been pre-Gmc. *Gud-o:n- rather than *Gud-a-; the corresponding adjective is *Gud-isk-a-). If the one or the other were reflected in Baltic, your case would be stronger. But maybe *guda:n- (as in Gdan'sk) represents the prehistoric Prussian development of *Gudo:n-.
Very interesting.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sergejus Tarasovas
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 4:30 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Baltic *gud3-

My idea was that gud- at least in Lith. gu`das '1. a Belarusian; 2.
foreigner' continues the ethnonym of Goths, obviously adopted by the
Balts (and Proto-Slavs ?) before the Great Consonantal Shift (so
reflexed as *d, not *t in Baltic).
As for Lith. gudu'oti, the idea of it's onomatopoeic origin seemes
quite attractive, but I'm not sure it's related to gu`das.

As for the Spanish in South America, could you qualify _who_ calls
them so? The locals of mixed (Spanish-native-...) origin? I no close
to nothing about locals/Spaniards relationship in South America. Does
it mean the social status of the Spanish at one time became lower
than the one of the locals?


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