Re: [tied] English.

Glen understands me. I'm complaining about how you non-native speakers
of English are constraining our use of our language. Piotr: it's
delightfully disgusting that you should be the one to correct me on
the history of English.

We native-speakers of English got our pride.

Yeah: Evolution evolves.

--- In cybalist@..., "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...> wrote:
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> Mark O:
> >>Currently, English is severely constrained by its literature (and
> >>universal literacy). We need keep ourselves literate in what's
gone
> >>before and thus subject ourselves to the prescriptivists,
> >>notwithstanding a generations-long revolt against them.
Innovation
> >>often gets stillborn.
>
> Hakan in response:
> >I've never heard this opinion before and as a speaker of a small,
>heavily
> >English-influenced language it's a weird experience to read >that
one of
> >its native speakers is so critical of the present state of English
and that
> >you believe that English is a constrained >language.
>
> I think Mark just likes to wield his poetic skills sometimes.
> English is hardly stillborn if you consider the "subculture"
elements
> that are helping to reshape the language as we speak (cf. "dope",
"phat",
> "be all that", "technicolor yawn", etc), combined with new
> technologies, new innovations, new companies and new levels of
social
> interaction with their own new catchwords (cf. "EQ", "can-do
> attitude", etc). I would say that it's true that old media items
> (such as Gene Kelly or Betty Boop) might have a tendency to slow
> some changes in the language (I mean: Who knows?? Television has
> only been around for less than a century) but at the same time,
creativity
> and new terminologies (especially increasingly specialized ones) are
still
> being created left and right.
>
> Sometimes it's hard for a computer programmer to communicate with an
> architect about webdevelopment technologies without dumbing the
> conversation down to a simple pidgin known as "layman's terms"
> combined with the occasional sign language for clarification.
>
> Mark O:
> >>It would be so nice if English could go its merry way and fracture
> >>into a number of interesting daughter languages. But this seems to
not be
> >>in the cards.
>
> Mark underestimates the concept of ever-increasing "specialisation"
> in the society of the 3rd millenium AD. English *is* fracturing but
> in a totally new way. Remember, my friends - Even evolution evolves.
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> gLeNny gEe
> ...wEbDeVEr gOne bEsErK!