> --- In cybalist@..., markodegard@... wrote:the
> > Torsten writes:
> > > That's another question that came into my mind: Does
> > > American English retroflex r come from Dutch?
> > I don't understand my own American Rs.
> > I doubt, however, that the American R is Dutch derived. Rather,
> > General American accent starts in the NE corner of Ohio (the oldis
> > Western Reserve of Connecticut) and expands conically as it moves
> > west.
> > The rhotic "non-RP" accent you find in most of the US and Canada
> > paralleled by 'West Country' accents found in England.New
> > The founder effects here are fascinating.
> I know that the 'West Country' founder effect is the standard
> explanation. But how come those West Country folks started the
> American English standard dialect in NE Ohio and stayed away from
> England and the South (both of which are r-less, as BritishEnglish,
> if my memory serves me well)?I just thought of another irritating fact. Upstate New York was
> I still like my scenario better.