Odp: [tied] Re: Latin -mini 2pl passive; Latin perfect

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 7306
Date: 2001-05-11

I know. I gave these very examples myself when discussing the formation; and so does anyone who writes about it, since little else seems to have survived ... unless of course Rasmussen is right about -nd-o- gerundives being derived from *-m(h1)n-o-. And he might well be, as the equally mysterious Latin gerunds, also in -nd-, could be derived in the same fashion from deverbal nouns in *-m(e)n- -- in other words, two birds killed with one stone!
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Subject: [tied] Re: Latin -mini 2pl passive; Latin perfect

--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> ... For Latin, you'd have to assume a completely isolated survival
> of a purely hypothetical periphrastic stage, since *<porta:mini:
> estis> is not attested; nor is *<porta:minus>.

Latin does show a few fossil survivals of a mediopassive participle in
-menos, e.g. alumnus < alomenos, and femina = "woman" < dhe:-mena: =
"she who is suckled from".