Re: Odp: [tied] gr!

From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 6804
Date: 2001-03-27

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen@...
> To: cybalist@...
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:26 AM
> Subject: [tied] gr!
>
>
> --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> > Glen asked about Hittite pir 'house' and its etymology.
> >
> [snip]
> > not unlike *k^e:r, *k^rd-(j-)รณ- (> Hit. gir, kardijas 'heart')
>
>
> Now, how do you explain the *g-/*k- stuff? Is the Hittite nom.
*g-
> related to the irregular h- of Sansrkit <hrd-> 'heart'?
> [snip]
> (A textbook answer is of course always nice, but please agree
with me
> that this particular coincidence is strange? I like being agreed
> with?)

--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> I'd agree if it could be shown that Hittite had the voiced :
voiceless contrast word-initially. I'm afraid <gir> only reflects the
scribes' preference for a particular syllabogram. Notice also that
all the other Hittite case forms of the word (<kardijas>, etc.)
contain <kar>, while Sanskrit <hrd-> has an invariable <h->.
>
> Piotr
>

I am sorry to hear that <gir> only reflects the scribe's preference
for a particular syllabogram. I didn't realize that. Could you please
get him to send a posting to cybalist to confirm that? :)
Or else, perhaps some more details of this particular explanation?
You realize of course that I am campaigning again for my very clever
and sorely ignored theory in cybalist #6279, whenceupon Sanskrit <h->
would be a generalization of the nominative seen in Hittite (now
where's my laryngeal when I need it)?

Torsten