Re: [tied] doch, donc

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 6625
Date: 2001-03-19

Thanks, Miguel. It's funny that such a common word in a thoroughly
investigated branch should be somewhat enigmatic. According to Pope,
<donque(s)> was created on the model of <onque(s)>, and <donc> itself
was phonetically recreated during the 17th century (in Middle French
the <c> was reportedly mute).

Piotr


--- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 21:55:49 +0100, "Piotr Gasiorowski"
> <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> >I suppose <donc> is indeed a simplification of <donques> = "de +
onques/onc". Our Francophone members will surely know.
>
> French donc, Catalan doncs, Italian dunque. According to Coromines
> (the hypothesis dates from Schuchardt), it's from Late Latin DUNC
> (attested), created out of DUM "while" on the analogy of TUM ~ TUNC
> "then", with possibly further influence from DONEC "until, as long
> as". Alternatively, it has also been explained as DUM + QUE.
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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