Re: [tied] Re: Language - Area - Routes

Gothic equivalents?

Rurik (R'urikU) = Got Hrothareiks (>Portuguese Rodrigo, Rui)
Oleg (OlIgU) = Got *Hailigs (ON Heiligr) or *Hailiga (ON Helgi)
Igor (IgorI:IngUvarI) Got *Iggvars

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Subject: [tied] Re: Language - Area - Routes


> --- In cybalist@..., S.Tarasovas@... wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@..., tgpedersen@... wrote:
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> > Germanic philology is not my string point, but what if we
> > recinstruct, eg, Gothic forms of these names (Old Russian R'urikU,
> > OlIgU, OlIga, IgorI:IngUvarI)? Please note also: it's sometimes
> hard
> > to distinguish persons of RusI origin from persons of Varingian
> (Old
> > Russian vare,zI) origin. Other Germanic name mentioned in Russian
> > chrinicles are SfinUkelU (RusI), AskolIdU, DirU (Varangians),
> > SveNIlIdU (?). Varangians well might be Danes (among others), your
> > mention of Danes in Kiev is absolutely right (but there were large
> > colonies of Jews, Khazars, Greeks etc. in Kiev as well).
> Constantine
> > Porphyrogenetes enumerates 'Rho:~s'ish (='RusI'ish) names of
> Dnieper
> > rapids which are certainly Germanic, but AFASK some interpret them
> as
> > Scandinavian, some doubt. I'll try to post the names ASAP.
> >
> > Sergei
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> Yes, but Galster's point was: Hrørek and Helge were names of the
> Scylding (Skjoldung-) kings of Roskilde on Sjælland (around 550?).
> Ingvar is Swedish enough. Those two first names are not known as
> names of Swedish kings. Galster also points out that Migration-time
> Germanic kings would have allitterating names within the same dynasty
> (here h-)
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