Re: [tied] Re: Wildcats and other European beasts

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 5904
Date: 2001-02-03

In Northern Eurasia (Palaearctic region) there are 3 species of
small/middle-sized cats: the Common Wild Cat (Felis sylvestris), the Lynx
(Lynx lynx) and the manul (Otocolubus manul). And the big extinct cats: lion
(Panthera leo) and cave lion/tiger (Panthera spelaea or P. spelaea or P.
tigris spelaea) ... and leopard (Panthera pardus)?
Was PIE *luk-s- used only for lynx... or for lynxes and cats together?
And Latin fe:les? = OHG belihha "dormouse",Celtic beleg- "marten" Russian
belka "squirrel" ?

And Greek iktid- / ktid- "weasel" ? Some relation with OE sta:t "stoat" ...
< *kstoid-, *kstid- ?
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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 11:56 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Wildcats and other European beasts


> --- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
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> > I've got no Slavic etymological dictionary at hand, but IF the two
> Polish words are related to each other AND derive from something
> Proto-Slavic, then that prototype may have been *stUb- with
> hypothetical Old Polish *steb, Gen. *stba [zdba] levelled out to
> zdeb, zdeba, and a diminutive formation *stUb-ik- giving *zdbik >
> *zbik > z'bik > hypercorrect *Zbik. I'm only guessing here and may
> well be on the wrong track. Still, if anyone feels like going on an
> IE wildcat chase, **stubH- might be worth keeping in mind.
> >
> If anyone wants to discuss IE fauna, I'm always game.
> >
> > Piotr
>
> I'm really sorry for this more than outdated reply, but I had to
> answer just in the name of justice: *stUb- is a nice shot (worth a
> reward :) considering the fact that only one language of the family
> was analyzed.
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> Proto-Slavic for 'wild cat' was, as supported by Lekhitic, Bulgarian
> and Russian evidence, *stIb'I (here b' after Moscow etym. school
> notation, = *bj). The first connection that occurs is with Lith.
> stebe.'ti 'to stare, to gaze' which could reflect wild cat's manner
> of loooking at.
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> Sergei
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