Kiev:980 ( corrected dates).Sorry

> In 970 young prince Vladimir was sent to rule Novgorod together with
> his uncle Dobrinya. However, he ran from Novgorod in fear of his older
> brother Yaropolk who had just killed in Kiev their other brother Oleg in
> internecine war in 977. Vladimir went for help to the neighboring Varyagi
> Vikings) and returned back to Novgorod with their army in 980.
> Together they captured Kiev, killed Yaropolk, and Vladimir married
> Yaropolk's bride - Rodnega. He became the Great Prince of Kiev.
> The paganism could not create the necessary political or moral unity

in

> the state. Vladimir decided to introduce the monotheistic religion ( his
> mother Olga was already Christian, baptized in Greece during one of her
> visits). He studied thoroughly Judaism, Christianity and Islam. His choice
> fell on Christianity; so, in 988, he went to Korsun' (Khersones) where

he

> was baptized and got married to Anna. Upon his return, he gathered all

the

> population of Kiev by the river Dnepr to be baptized in his presence. All
> idols were burnt or sunk.
>
> AK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Torsten Pedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 6:07 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: etruscan
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> > --- In cybalist@egroups.com, "Torsten Pedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> > wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > > > It is well documented that the norse and danes during the viking
> > > age
> > > > ruled great parts of western europe. Norse kings ruled in
> > Ireland,
> > > > England, Isle of Man, Scotland and Normandie
> > (Gangerolv/Rolv/Rollo).
> > > > Snorre (13th century) tells of raids in the Mediterrinean sea,
> > > Sicily,
> > > > Africa, Spain etc. Archeology also shows that norse traded with
> > > Roman
> > > > Empire and Italy well before Christ. Read history.
> > > >
> > > > Morten
> > >
> > > Which is all true and not in conflict with what I said, so why get
> > so
> > > steamed up? Read the postings.
> > >
> > > Torsten
> >
> > Perhaps I should add why I think the eastern route through the rivers
> > was the most important.
> > There is a story from a North German chronicler of the conquest of
> > the Wend lands. The Germans have caught a Wend pirate (they were much
> > feared and caused much damage and loss of life also in Denmark). They
> > asked him why he was a pirate? He began an impassioned speech that it
> > was not of his own choosing, it was the only option left to him and
> > his people in face of German aggression and expansion. So they strung
> > him up.
> > Which set me thinking: Why did the Scandinavians choose piracy? it's
> > a dangerous profession. And why did they suddenly burst forth in a
> > great number of ships, in several rounds, e.g. 980? Since there was
> > no central government, there can't have been a "fleet construction
> > program", and nothing points in that direction. So the ships must
> > have been there already.
> > So I came up with a tentative scenario: There is a large number of
> > vessels used by boat organizations (20-30 men, that's how they used
> > to do it) trading on the Baltic and on the Eastern River Routes to
> > the Black Sea etc. Suddenly, for political reasons, that passage is
> > closed. What do you do? Starve or try to trade west. But if they
> > don't want your wares? Steal and rob.
> > To test this scenario, does anyone of you (Sergei?) know of any
> > sudden political change e.g. in Kievan Rus (new Slavonymic tsar?)
> > taking place in 980?
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> > Torsten
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