Re: etruscan

Speaking as a representative of the Kredenn Geltiek Hollvedel, a very
traditional Celtic cultural and religious organization which likes
good scholarship, we like Christopher Gwinn's statements below. But,
it is important to realize that (preChristian and current/Reawakened
traditionalist) Celtic unity, including the Irish, comes from the
spiritual leadership, regardless of political conditions. This is
also a growing trend among practitioners of many of the branches of
traditional IndoEuropean culture and religion.

Regards to all!
Ariaxs-Druuis Belenios Ategnatos, DCE, KGH (Mark DeFillo)

--- In cybalist@egroups.com, "christopher gwinn" <sonno3@...> wrote:
>
> >The full name Tuatha Dé [sic! = "Goddess's"] Danann is, as Chris
Gwinn
> > >pointed out some time ago, a rather late literary invention.
Anyway, >if
> >some Proto-Celts had named _themselves_ after a river (be it the
>Danube,
> >Donwy, or anything with *da:nu- or *da:neujo- in it), I >wouldn't
be
> >surprised at all. Many Slavic tribes, for example, derived >their
names
> >from hydronyms. But you seem to claim that somebody else >named
the Danes
> >in that manner (*dan- can't be a Germanic reflex of >*da:nu-), and
that
> >they accepted the foreigner-given name, which >people are
reluctant to do,
> >on the whole.
>
> While I would tend to agree that Dane doesn't come from PIE*Da-nu
but, to
> play devil's advocate, I will admit that we do have a classic
example of a
> people taking on a foreign name - the Gaels.
> The Irish weren't a politically unified people anciently, but
during the
> 6th-7th centuries, the Irish began to develop a new sense of common
identity
> - especially when coming into contact with the Britons (whom the
Irish were
> often in conflict with). From the Welsh the Irish borrowed their
new ethnic
> name (replacing the popular Scotti) - Goedel (which was an attempt
at
> reproducing Welsh Gwyddel - perhaps meaning "forest people"
or "wild
> people").
> Perhaps the Danes got their name from remnant Celtic populations in
the area
> (a form of Celtic culture likely existed anciently in southern
Denmark).
> -Chris Gwinn