Re: [tied] IndoTyrrhenian, French and avoidance of N+N non-dvandva

Baggerman is a dvandva thing. Interestingly, hangman is now analysed as an endocentric compound, with hang- understood as 'a hanging'. A clear indication of that is the reduced second element, never found in V+N compounds, and the plural hangmen rather than *hangmans. Originally, however, hang-man belonged to the pickpocket type.

Piotr

----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Gordon

To: cybalist@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 6:48 PM

Subject: [tied] IndoTyrrhenian, French and avoidance of N+N non-dvandva compounding

And just one correction however: There IS a word "bagger-man", not "bag-man", meaning the friendly slave of mass consummerism & downsizing who bags your groceries at the supermarket for minimum wage as he struggles desperately to get his computer science degree. Never forget those poor, minimum-wage students that help you to your car. There is also the "packerman", another luxurious profession. In contrast, "PacMan" is a palaeolithic arcade game making loud, synthesized noises back when computers could only display blue, purple and white on the screen (Wow! Talkin' about primitive, man!). A "packerman" isn't a "packman" or a "Pacman" and a "baggerman" isn't a "bag-man" (a male "bag-lady"), although the latter connection makes sense financially :) There's also Quakerman. Of course there is no "goer-church" but this is unacceptable word order in English afterall.