--- In
cybalist@egroups.com, "Torsten Pedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
wrote:
>
>The idea of sex as
> humiliation and insult is supposed to come into American English
via
> Slavic, especially Russian, which in its turn got it from Turkish.
>
From Turkish? But who has proved that (or tried to prove)? There's a
common misconception concerning Russian swearwords: the statement
that they're (etymologically!) or Turkish origin. Even such venerable
words like xuj 'penis'< (Common Slavic) *xujI < (Pre-Slavic) *skouj-o-
'needle,spike' (cf. Lith skuja` 'fir/pine needles'), pizda, jebat'
(already discussed here) are accused of Turkish (or even Mongolian!)
origin. As this Turkish origin is patently incorrect etymologically,
there's every reason to believe that this is incorrect ideologically
as well.
Sergei