Re: [tied] Fire-Born

Alain Danielou's book, Shiva et Dionysos mentions this relation between
Dionysos and Shiva plus Skanda. He relates a "First, Older Dionysos" with
Shiva, and a "Second, Younger Dionysos" with Skanda.
But we had a problem: Dionysos HAS NEVER BEEN a warrior god.
I think Dumezil mentions the possible existence of a Fire-Born entity in IE
myths, relating Skanda with Servius Tullius. Dionysos is Pyrigenes
"Fire-born = Lightning-born", Akhiles is Pyrisoos "Fire-saved" and Asklepios
can be a similar epithetus, although I can't remember.
The tale of a Earth-Goddess struck by the Lightning of a Sky or Storm-god is
a very plausible concept.

----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:57 AM
Subject: [tied] Fire-Born


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> Hidy-ho, folks.
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> Scary stuff. I didn't know that "Fire-Born" had actual attestation in IE
> myths until now...
>
> If anyone had doubts about a *PexwrGnnos "Fire-Born" war deity (usually
> reconstructed as *PerkWnos), I just found Sanskrit Agnibhu meaning the
same
> thing, one of the names of Skanda, god of war. One site mentions that the
> term is "applied to the Kshatriyas or warrior caste, whose ancestors were
> said to have sprung from fire". Imagine that! Excuse me, while I and my
> theories take a humble bow. It's further attested by Dionysus pet name,
> Purigenes, meaning (you guessed it!) "Fire-Born"!
>
> Well, carry on, now.
>
> - gLeN
>
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