Re: [tied] PIE constellations and divinities

From: Glen Gordon
Message: 4962
Date: 2000-12-06

Joao:
>> *Xste:r Venus, the morning/evening star
>
>Is there any trace of this deity in IE myths? I only recognize the >Greek
>Eosphoros/Hesperos, and maybe ON Aurvandill (OE Earendel, OHG >Orentill).

This is the name I conclude, since it would appear that the "star" word
itself is taken from the name of the equivalent Semitic love deity. This
goddess is simply the archetypal beautiful young maiden whose traces can be
seen everywhere in Venus, Aphrodite, Frigg, etc. The names are all different
but yet she must have existed in IE myth. So her name's *Xste:r until I come
across a better idea :)

>> *Dexnu the primordial waters (cf.Egyptian Nu)
>
>Any trace in IE myths? Nu is Egyptian, not IE... Or Indian >demon-mother
>Danu and Irish Domnu?

Nu is Egyptian, yes, but the primordial waters must exist in IE myth as
well. These are the "waters of the deep" and this may what's refered to by
the water god's name *Xepom Nepo:t "Grandson of the Waters". Grandson of
WHAT waters? Obviously, it must be the primordial waters, *Dexnu.

Joao:
>This is probably related with the Finish theogony (A Cosmic Bird >laying
>eggs to create the World)

I'm pretty sure that this ultimately derives from Early Europe mythological
motifs, as is said by Gimbutas, not Uralic myth. She may be a harsh
matrifocal feminist for even a non-sexist (and cute, don't forget cute!) man
like me to read but I think she speaks the truth in the end. Obviously, once
in Europe, Uralic-speaking peoples would adopt some of the native myths
however it doesn't appear to be what is believed by some Central Asian
peoples who don't even believe in a creation myth, nor did they know of
great oceans in order to even conceive of this myth like the Mediterranean
and Black Sea peoples.

And for Janeen, you may have noticed the common origin of both the Creation
and Flood myths, yes? Took dimwitted ol' me forever to realize this.

- gLeN

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