Re: [tied] Polecat

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 4953
Date: 2000-12-05

I'd adduce *k^onk- 'hang', which is probably far more solid than most of these roots. I doubt if any leading IEist (other than G or I) would be able to recognise more than two or three items in the list. Dictionaries like Pokorny's are infested with "protowords" reconstructed on little real evidence. A word in Armenian looks like a word in Latvian, give or take a consonant, so a shaky reconstruction was offered by someone somewhere and Pokorny recorded it conscientiously, giving it eternal life.
 
*geig^- is the strangest of'em all. Two plain voiced stops in one root??
 
Piotr
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
To: cybalist@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Polecat

On Tue, 5 Dec 2000 15:40:11 +0100, "Piotr Gasiorowski"
<gpiotr@...> wrote:

>Mind if I tsk-tsk over this one, Miguel? As far as I'm aware (correct me if I'm wrong), the "polecat" reconstruction *kek^- is founded upon a root equation (?) between Indic and Baltic. The meaning is only roughly similar in both branches, and the putative root forms involved are Skt. kas'- (< *kok^- or *kak^-) vs. Lith. s^es^-/Latvian ses- (< *k^ek^-), which means that *if* the words are related at all (chance similarity is a near-certainty in cases where neither the vowels nor the consonants match with any rigour), neither the Indic nor the Baltic variants reflect *kek^-.

As I don't really have G & I (just some notes I took when I had it
from the library), I just took the first example I found in Pokorny.
You're quite right that it's not a particularly solid one, although a
case could be made. 

Looking at my notes, it's not, in fact, one of the examples adduced by
G & I.  Their examples are:

*geig^- "bitter, sharp"
*kak^- "thin, weak"
*k^ak- "be able, to help"
*k^a(:)k- "branch, plough"
*g^halg- "stick"
*g^hengh- "ankle, leg; to go"
*gheug^h- "hidden, secret"
*k^e:ko- "grass, greens"
*kork^- "thin"
*k^euk- "white"
*kok^- "armpit ~ leg ~ body"
*k^uenk- "brush; to open"