Re: [tied] "Where" is locative *-u? (..."where" being the operative

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 4802
Date: 2000-11-22

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:11:16 , "Glen Gordon"
<glengordon01@...> wrote:

>As I said, his
>hypothesis is strengthened by the fact that both *-i and *-u are locative
>suffixes. Unfortunately, I cannot find direct examples of *-u but since I've
>seen an IE form for "where?" reconstructed in another source with this very
>locative ending (something like *kW(o)u), I'm sure it must be there
>somewhere.
>
>Luckily, Mr Author-Person-Guy does mention attested forms relating to this
>"where" word indirectly, via his discussion about /ku-/ interrogatives in
>Sanskrit. It would seem BaltoSlavic lgs seem to reaffirm the existence of
>the locative interrogative in IE:
>
> Sanskrit /kú:cit/ "everywhere"
> /kuv-ít/ [interr.particle]
> /kva/ "where"
> /kúha/ "where"
> /kútra/ "where"
> /kútas/ "whence"
> Avestan /ku:/ "where"
> /kuthra:/ "where"
> /kuda:/ "where"
> OSl /kude/
>
>I am no expert on IE-to-BaltoSlavic sound correspondances but the
>IndoIranian evidence would seem to point to *kWu or *kWu:.

*kwu-, as does Slavic [*] (and e.g. Latin u-bi). But I fail to see
what any of this has to do with a putative locative marker *-u. If
anything, this merely strengthens my case for a development *Cwi >
*C(w)u.

[*] [although *kU- itself does not necessarily indicate locative; in
*kU-to "who?" it comes from PIE *kwos ~ *kwis]

You also mentioned some time back "collective nouns in -u". Doesn't
ring a bell. Can you give some examples?

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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