From: Alina
Message: 4697
Date: 2000-11-13
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From: "petegray" <petegray@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 18:55
Subject: Re: [tied] Italo-Celtic : p-kw > kw-kw
> João asked:
>
> >..[Italo-Celtic p-kw > kw-kw]... Lat quercus, quinque, coquo
> >Are there another examples?
> >May this assimilation occur in compounds, like, for instance, *pro-kwolo-
>
> *kwro-kwolo ?
> >Similarly, may this assimilation occur in bh-gwh, p-gw, p-ghw, b-gw,
etc
> ?
>
> (a) I am unaware of any other examples. There are no other p..kw roots in
> PIE, as far as I know. The only kw..p root is the remarkable form
*kwsep,
> which survives only into Sanskrit & Greek.
>
> (b) In Latin this assimilation only occurs within an inherited root. If
the
> compounding prefix were productive, analogical pressures might well
prevent
> assimilation.
>
> (c) Briefly, they don't assimilate! But the evidence is very sparse:
> There are no examples with b- (because of rarity of PIE /b/), although a
> form *breukw is suggested in Pokorny from Greek and Slavic.
>
> I can find none with bh..gwh.
>
> For bh...gw, I can find:
> bhlegw (swell), based on Greek and Germanic.
> bhegw (run away) Hindi, Greek, Lith, Slav, Toch - but not Latin
> or Celtic
>
> The form bh...kw should be theoretically impossible, but I find three
> examples:
> bharekw (stuff) Latin farcio, perhaps also frequens; mIrish barc
> bhloskw (onomatopoia) Irish blosc
> bhro:iskwo (a herb) - only in Slavic
>
> I can find no p...gw roots. The form p...gwh is (in theory) impossible.
>
> So only two words, one onomatopoic, are availabnle as evidence. Only
Latin
> Farcio seems to suggest a lack of assimilation.
>
> Peter
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