Re: [tied] Re: Genealogy of Irish kings

Now I can't remember the URL, but take a look at "Niul" in Altavista and
will not be difficult to find it.
Is "Ivernian" related to Hibernia? I know Hibernia ~ Iwerddon < *Iwerion >
Eiriu, all < *Piweria "opulent land".
Is the Irish Flood of Celtic origin or just a copy of Biblic Flood? Maybe
similar to Norse Bergelmir's flood?
Joao SL
Rio

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Subject: [tied] Re: Genealogy of Irish kings


> Joao wrote:
> > I was seeing a site about genealogy and it's listed the genealogy
> of Irish kings, beginning with Noah. The Book of Coquest obviously
> has a very strong Christian superstratum, but is the "fusion" process
> well known?
> > Why does the linneage pass through Crete, Goths, Scythia and Spain?
> > Where is the IE base behind it?
> > What's the meaning of names like Eber, Niul, Gaedhal, etc.
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> I understand Eber comes from the same root as "Ivernian", and Gaedhal
> from "Gael". Nuil seems to be an earlier version of Niall (modern
> Neil).
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> Can you send details of the URL?
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> Regarding the linneage, the ancient Gaels of Ireland and Scotland
> were incredible genealogists (part of the druidic training for bards
> was a training in oral genealogy). With the coming of Christianity
> and the conversion of all Druidic colleges into Christian
> monasteries, this lore was written down.
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> During the Middle Ages there was an immese effort to make all
> genealogies available (eg, that of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, of the
> Merovignian Kings, of the Vikings, of the classical Greek and Roman
> heroes and of the Irish, to be compatible with the genealogy of the
> Bible from Noah onwards. This mddle-headed cobbling together of
> false leads and little bits of half remembered information.
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> Passing the linneages through all kinds of strange and fictionalised
> places was par for the course. I myself, through the Clan MacDonald
> can trace myself back through Heremon's wife Tamar, to Prince
> Jehoachim of Jerusalem, and hence back to Noah.... Forgeries
> abounding, but interesting.
>
> Regards
>
> John
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