Re: Genealogy of Irish kings

From: jdcroft@...
Message: 4592
Date: 2000-11-07

Joao wrote:
> I was seeing a site about genealogy and it's listed the genealogy
of Irish kings, beginning with Noah. The Book of Coquest obviously
has a very strong Christian superstratum, but is the "fusion" process
well known?
> Why does the linneage pass through Crete, Goths, Scythia and Spain?
> Where is the IE base behind it?
> What's the meaning of names like Eber, Niul, Gaedhal, etc.

I understand Eber comes from the same root as "Ivernian", and Gaedhal
from "Gael". Nuil seems to be an earlier version of Niall (modern
Neil).

Can you send details of the URL?

Regarding the linneage, the ancient Gaels of Ireland and Scotland
were incredible genealogists (part of the druidic training for bards
was a training in oral genealogy). With the coming of Christianity
and the conversion of all Druidic colleges into Christian
monasteries, this lore was written down.

During the Middle Ages there was an immese effort to make all
genealogies available (eg, that of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, of the
Merovignian Kings, of the Vikings, of the classical Greek and Roman
heroes and of the Irish, to be compatible with the genealogy of the
Bible from Noah onwards. This mddle-headed cobbling together of
false leads and little bits of half remembered information.

Passing the linneages through all kinds of strange and fictionalised
places was par for the course. I myself, through the Clan MacDonald
can trace myself back through Heremon's wife Tamar, to Prince
Jehoachim of Jerusalem, and hence back to Noah.... Forgeries
abounding, but interesting.

Regards

John