Re: [tied] PIE mustelids and seals

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 4452
Date: 2000-10-20

Galee "weasel" = Lat glis "dormouse" = Sanskrt giri-, girika "rat" somethibg like *Gw@... ?
iktid-, ktid- < *ksti- ? cf. English stoat < *sta:t < *staita < *kstoid- ? What's the meaning of -staj in Russian gornostaj "stoat"?

*KER(D)MON- Lit s^ermuo (weasel) Germanic *harman (weasel, stoat)  Grk kerdos(fox, weasel)

MARTEN < Germanic *marthra-, *marthuz, maybe "bride", like Portuguese doninha  and Spanish comadreja  (weasel), litterally "little lady"


Joao SL

----- Original Message -----
From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] PIE mustelids and seals

Very quickly:
Ferret derives from a diminutive of Latin fu:r 'thief'
Polecat is a late word = 'hen-cat' (cf. French poule)
Slavic *tUxorI 'polecat' may have to do with stinking, like any other mustelid names.
Otter is *udra:x/*udros in several branches
Weasel is a derivative of *wiso- 'stench, poison'
Martes (Latin 'marten') was a loan from Germanic, probably < *(s)merd- 'stink'
Greek iktid- 'marten' is interesting. The i is prothetic, and the original stem was ktid-; it looks old but I can't think of convincing cognates. Galee: 'weasel, polecat, ferret' may be an ancient name for something small and furry (cf. Latin gli:s 'dormouse').
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 12:16 AM
Subject: [tied] PIE mustelids and seals

Is there PIE names for
weasel (Mustela nivalis and alike)  ?
stoat (Mustela erminea)  ?
mink (Lutreola lutreola)  ?
badger (already discussed) *tasku-/tazgu-
marten (Martes spp.)  ?
polecat / ferret (Putorius putorius & Putorius eversmanni)"?
otter (Lutra lutra) *udros
seal (Phoca spp.) ?
Joao SL