Re: [tied] Ilios

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 4355
Date: 2000-10-15

Sometimes Ilios is considered a cognate of Oileus, from *wilu- "dark" or "mud"
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From: Piotr Gasiorowski
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Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Ilios

 
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Here's something more about the identification of Wilusa as Troy. The Luwian poem I referred to (which C. Watkins calls, tongue in cheek, "The Wilusiad") is mentioned there. On the linguistic side, Wilusa = *wi:l-us-a-, where -us- is the same placename-forming suffix that we find in Hattusa-. The corresponding Greek suffix is *-jo-, hence the Greek calque Wi:l-ijo-s > Ilios /i:lios/. I'm not sure what the "wi:l-" part is -- most likely an ethnic name. Hypothetical Hittite *Wi:lumna-, Luwian *Wi:luwanni- (?) would correspond to Greek Ilios 'Ilian = Trojan'. Has anyone heard of such ethnonyms on the Aegean coast of Asia Minor?
 
 
Piotr