Re: Black Sea

From: flefort@...
Message: 4308
Date: 2000-10-13

--- In cybalist@egroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
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> Subject: [tied] Re: Black Sea
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> Give or take a century. But if dendrochronologically datable
wooden object are recovered from the drowned villages (and there
should be plenty of them, as the H2S-saturated deep waters of the
Black Sea luckily keep most microorganisms away) we may soon know the
exact calendar date.
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> Piotr
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> Yes you are absolutely right, I made a mistake it was 7500 years
AGO and not BC, thus 5500 BC, which sounds better



In the same Liberation's article
(http://www.liberation.fr/sciences/actu/20000928jeuv.html), it is
reported that the American geologist Robert Ballard claims to have
identified sub-marine building-like structures (about 13m x 4 m)
located at 12 miles from the coast. I am really impatient to see more
of these findings.
Back to the Indo-European and the flooding, 5500 BC looks still
earlier than supposed. And back to my grapevine interest,I know that
terms referring to grapevine and wine exist in many ancient indo-
european languages but first wine-making evidence has been found in
North Iran (McGovern et al)and is dated about 5500-5700 BC, which
according to the present knowledge was not a Indo-European territory
at that time. On the other hand, the regions of origin and of the
further expansion of the Indo-Europeans hosted wild grapevine.
Certainly these people knew and harvested wild grapevine, maybe they
also made wine from its juice. But did they plant it or did they
bring plants with them during their migrations?