Re: [tied] Ogme/Ogma's etymology

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 4297
Date: 2000-10-13

Celtic *-iios > Irish -a ?

Joao SL
Rio
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From: Christopher Gwinn <sonno3@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Ogme/Ogma's etymology


> Irish Ogma comes from Goidelic -i- stem *Ogmiios (and may be matched by
> Welsh Eufydd from *Ogmiios) - it is unsure wether the name is a direct
loan
> from Gaulish, or a Common Celtic survival (I would favor this, noting the
> Welsh form Eufydd). Som have sought a Greek origin for the name Ogmiosw,
> but we must note that there is an Irish words ogam meaning "supporting
> beam/prop" - a reasonable name for an Irish god who is represented as the
> champion warrior of the Tuatha De. Of course, we have the Irish ogam
> alphabet (supposed to have been invented by Ogma) which may be related to
> the "beam" derivation. Another possibility, noting that Ogma is the
> strongman par-excellence, is a development out of PIE *Peug- "to
> box/strike."
> -C. Gwinn
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