Re: [tied] Re: First iron swords on mass scale

May the name DO:ROS came from IE *dhers- "strong, bold", through some
intermediary *DORHOS<*DORSOS, maybe thraco-phrygian or alike?
Joao SL
Rio

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From: John Croft <jdcroft@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:28 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: First iron swords on mass scale


> In reply to Piotr's excellent post, Michal asked
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> > What does it mean in context of the first experience of
> > Greeks with iron? Does it suggest that there was no early
> > (pre 1200 BC) contact between Greeks (Dorians) and Hittite
> > Empire, and that Hittites did not contribute directly to
> > Doric metallurgy? What was the name for "iron" in Phrygian?
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> The Dorian movements are commonly believed to have occurred in two
> waves. The first from Thesally to Epirus (around Dodona). A second
> from Dodona to the Pelopponnese. The first may have been prompted by
> raids (Thracians) south from Thrace. The second by the Illyrian
> expansion (The Illyrian Dardana seem to have given their name to
> Dodona - a temple of Zeus venerated in Greece just behind that of
> Olympus). There was thus no contact between Hittites and Dorians at
> all. I would suspect that the Dorians got their knowledge of iron
> from the Illyrians. Whether there is a word for iron in Illyrian
> that has survived, I don't know.
>
> Regards
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> John
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