Re: [tied] Re: Non-IE elements in Scandinavian

According to WEBSTER, ON fjall "mountain" akin to German fels "rock" < IE
*pels- > MIrl all "crag", Grk pella "stone"
According to Oxford Dic. of English Etymology ON fjall and fell, German fels
< OHG felisa, felis, akin to Skr pas.yam "stone", and the same Greek and
Irish examples.

Joao SL
Rio

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From: Marc Verhaegen <marc.verhaegen@...>
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Non-IE elements in Scandinavian


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> >I'm no expert in indo-european languages, so many of my examples are of
IE
> >origin. I just mentioned a few words which I hadn't heard in other
> >languages and thought could be non-IE. But also remember that many
> >Scandinavian words were spread widely during the Viking ages (ca. 1000
> >AD), for example vindu = window. Although most of my examples have been
> >explained as IE, some remain. Fjell = mountain and hav = ocean are my
best
> >candidates for non-IE. It's also interesting that names of rivers, some
> >lakes and regions in Norway are of unknown origin. Ancient, unexplained
> >names like Trysil, Hemsil, Tolga, Rena, Madla, Bandak and Totak do not
> >resemble other Norwegian names or words.
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> Fjell & hav not Germanic? Is "hav" related to Dutch "haven"=harbour? My
> etym.diccionary says it could be related to Latin "capere". Could "fjell"
> berelated to "to fall"?
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> Marc
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