Re: Non-IE elements in Scandinavian

--- In cybalist@egroups.com, "Marc Verhaegen" <marc.verhaegen@...>
wrote:

> >I'm no expert in indo-european languages, so many of my examples

are of IE

> >origin. I just mentioned a few words which I hadn't heard in other
> >languages and thought could be non-IE. But also remember that many
> >Scandinavian words were spread widely during the Viking ages (ca.

1000

> >AD), for example vindu = window. Although most of my examples have

been

> >explained as IE, some remain. Fjell = mountain and hav = ocean are

my best

> >candidates for non-IE. It's also interesting that names of rivers,

some

> >lakes and regions in Norway are of unknown origin. Ancient,

unexplained

> >names like Trysil, Hemsil, Tolga, Rena, Madla, Bandak and Totak do

not

> >resemble other Norwegian names or words.
>
>
> Fjell & hav not Germanic? Is "hav" related to Dutch

"haven"=harbour? My

> etym.diccionary says it could be related to Latin "capere". Could

"fjell"

> berelated to "to fall"?
>
> Marc

I think Fjell is related to German 'Fels' meaning 'rock' which is
itself of IE origin.

Regards

David