From: Mark Odegard
Message: 3677
Date: 2000-09-14
From: John Croft
The recovery of sacred objects beneath the waters all appear to stem
from a Sumerian source. I would refer you to the Epic of Gilgamesh
in which Utunapishtim informs Gilgamesh that the flower of
immortality blooms beneath the waters. There is a description of how
the hero ties boulders around his ankles to retreive the blossom,
that seems to have been the source for later myths such as that of
Theseus.A Sumerian source? There seems to have been something like this going on in the New World too with the Mayas. Waters have a universal fascination; and objects lost or retrieved, either accidentally or deliberately (even ritually) have the same attraction as tossing coins into a wishing well or public fountain.Accepting a Pontic homeland, the PIEs were religiously at the shamanistic level, with medicine men a la Sitting Bull. What fragments of this we can retrieve (and we really can, it seems) have NOTHING to do with Sumeria. Even with a Middle European homeland, the Old Europeans were separated from whoever became the Sumerians by a good 2000-3000 years.Mark.