Re: [tied]

From: John Croft
Message: 3436
Date: 2000-08-29

--- In cybalist@egroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Yves Deroubaix
> To: cybalist@...
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:22 PM
> Subject: [tied]
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> I don't know the origin of Germanic *dani-. In case you wonder, it
can't be connected with IE *da:nu-, since that would have changed
into Germanic *to:nu-.

Danemark, was originally only an outpost of Danish settlement, the
centre of which was in Southern Sweeden. As the Swedes expanded,
though Denmark finished as being the total territory of the Danes,
replacing the Jutes, who earlier replaced the Teutones and Cymri
already spoken of.

Regarding the latter two, I had a history teacher in High School who
asserted that "Teutones" was a Latin attempt to say "Deutchen".
Cymri looks very like Cymru (Welsh = fellow countryman") very like
what Piotr wrote

> Sweden was called Swio-ri:ce 'the kingdom of the Swees' in Beowulf
(= Old Swedish Svea-ri:ke > modern Sverige). The ethnic name Swees
(if I may risk this modernised spelling = Old Swedish Svear) meant
simply 'our own countrymen' (IE *swe-, hence also the personal name
Sven).

And given the high Gallic presence in Marius's enemies, and given
that they wandered all over the Celtic realm before attempting to
enter Italy I wonder whether the tribe came to assume a Celtic name
as a result of its highly conglomerate nature.

Regards

John