Re: [tied] DeneCaucasian numerals, god and the Pelasgians

OK, I know Pelasgos was an "arbitrary" word, like "Amerindian". I'm also
believe Pelasgians was a mix of different people.
So, let's sugest:
PELAS-GOS ~ PELESHET "philistim" ?

Why Argive Greeks stated a pair ARGOS/PELASGOS? Anything like AR-ZGOS and
PELA-ZGOS?
Argos = The Argives ? (The "Egyptianized" Greeks, according to BERNAL)
Pelasgos = The Arkadians ? (The "barbarian"Greeks).

Joao SL

----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 3:42 AM
Subject: [tied] DeneCaucasian numerals, god and the Pelasgians


>
> Joao with a million questions:
> >Could the Pre-IE "Pelasgians" be Dene-Caucasian people?
>
> The Pelasgians could conceivably be almost anything from what I'm aware of
> (except Greek, at least... we assume). There is always the ugly
possibility
> and likeliest that they are a group of non-Hellenic people or peoples who
> spoke various languages, not just one.
>
> Of the languages that were most popular amongst them, my guess would be
any
> of the following (which are _not_ listed in order of probability or
> popularity):
>
> - IE dialects
> (Anatolian, for instance)
> - Tyrrhenian dialects
> (Etruscan, Rhaetic, Lemnian)
> - VascoCaucasic dialects
> (pre-IndoTyrrhenian languages)
> - Semitoid dialects
> (either Semitic or... Semitish?)
>
> These language groups are all represented on my Black Sea linguistic map
(c
> 6000 BCE) on my site, if interested. Ultimately, I see the IE &
Tyrrhenians
> coming from the east off the steppe, Semitish from West Anatolia into the
> Balkans and VascoCaucasic dialects slowly spreading from Europe towards
the
> Balkans eastwards. But this is just one lonely thought among many.
>
> >Is there some reconstruction for Dene-Caucasian numerals?
>
> I personally haven't come across any DeneCaucasian material yet, aside
from
> Starostin's site (http://starling.rinet.ru/) which only goes into detail
> about his "North Caucasian" which is, I suppose, close enough as being
> "DeneCaucasian". At any rate, I'm not the only one to notice numerical
> similarities across the DeneCaucasian spectrum judging by other internet
> postings. I personally reconstruct the numerals as follows:
>
> 1 *xi-ca
> 2 *xi-k?u, *mN
> 3 *xi-sul(mu)
> 4 *li(mu)
> 5 *piNu
> 6 *rutL (*tL is a single phoneme)
> 7 *sul-rit
> 8 *mN-rit (*M and *N are nasal vowels)
> 9 *xilxul (?)
> 10 *xMsi (*c? = /ts/ + glottal stop)
>
> They relate to the Nostratic numbers and ultimately to the Steppe numbers
> that I have reconstructed to the ire of Piotr :)
>
> >Any D-C word meaning "god"?
>
> Still looking.
>
> - gLeN
>
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